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Paterson's 'Birther' Comment May Reveal Misgivings, Says Queens GOPer

'Even if he wasn’t born in the United States, at this point, it’s kind of like he got away with it,' Governor Paterson reportedly said of President Obama.

In an unartful defense of President Obama, Gov. David Paterson seemingly posed the possibility that birther claims are true, according to the Daily News.

“Even if he wasn’t born in the United States, at this point, it’s kind of like he got away with it," the paper quoted Paterson as saying on his radio program. “A lot of people get away with a lot of things,” he reportedly added.

The term 'Birther' is an unaffectionate nickname for Obama detractors who believe the President was born in Kenya, and his long form Hawaiian birth certificate is a falsification.

"I think some might view Former Gov. David Paterson's apparently half-hearted defense of President Obama as an indication of personal animus," said Queens GOP Vice Chair Vince Tabone, adding, "I would wager that the Governor in many respects has every reason to be miffed at his party and this President."

Paterson was on record as not supporting ObamaCare for New York, according to the Daily News. While tangling with teachers unions, and attempting to make unpopular budget cuts in 2009, Paterson received attention for what Tabone called "extremely coincidental public relations episodes," one of which implicated his top aid in drug related charges.

"His appeals for help from the White House did not just fall on deaf ears [and in] 2009 in a stinging rebuke Obama urged Paterson not to seek re-election," said Tabone.

In addressing the birther controversy, Paterson reportedly compared Obama to Richard Nixon’s having won his presidential election in 1968, saying Nixon may have perpetrated "treason" in allegedly sabotaging President Lyndon Johnson’s Vietnam peace talks, but that  Nixon “got away with it.”

But Tabone sees contrast between Nixon and Obama, saying, "Obama is no Nixon in the sense that he seems more than willing to throw any former ally under the bus who becomes an impediment."

Tabone's assessment of Paterson's comments is that he was trying to defend the president from birther charges, but the former governor "inadvertently betrayed his misgivings about Obama's general honesty and loyalty."

Patch asked Tabone if he believes Gov. Paterson has shifted to the political right. You can read his full .

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David Farrar May 31, 2012 at 10:54 PM
Nothing has been proven as to where and when Obama was born. The only thing a state certified birth certificate "proves" is that a birth occurred and it was recorded (OEI- 07-99-00570). Everthing else on a birth certificate has to be proven the old fashion way: by a preponderance of evidence. Even if we were to take Barack Obama's two Hawaiian birth certificates at face value, it would clearly demonstrate he is not an Article ll 'natural born' Citizen because his father wasn't an American citizen when Barack was born. Mitt Romney has a similar problem...his father was born in Mexico to expatriated US citizen parents who gave up their US citizen to be allowed by Mexican authorities to colonize in Mexico. By natural law, an Article ll 'natural born' Citizen is a person born a US citizen under the cloak of allegiance of their father. That is what De Vattel observed, and is till the natural law of inheritance. Allowing the courts to decide who is or who isn't a 'natural born' Citizen allows the government to create the 'ruling class' rather than our founding fathers and the Constitution. ex animo davidfarrar
ellen hancock June 01, 2012 at 08:46 PM
The notion of Obama’s mother, late in pregnancy, traveling alone (WND has shown that Obama senior was in Hawaii on August 4, 1961) from Hawaii where there are good hospitals, to Kenya, where there was Yellow Fever and bad hospitals, and doing so without any INS record of her leaving the USA or any record of her arriving in Kenya—is absurd. And the fact that there is a birth certificate showing that she gave birth in Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu makes it even more absurd. The meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the place of birth, not the parents.
David Farrar June 01, 2012 at 08:57 PM
ellen hancock, There are a lot of absurdities when it comes to just how did the Hawaiian Registrar "verified" Barack Obama's birth. The most absurd point about this whole absurd affair is the fact that outside of the Hawaiian Health Department records; there isn't one shred of independent, corroborative piece of evidence that would support Barack Obama's statement that he was born when and where he states. Now how weird is that? ex animo davidfarrar
ellen hancock June 02, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Outside of Michigan birth certificate records there isn't any evidence that Mitt Romney was born in Michigan. Detroit Michigan is about a mile from a foreign country. Hawaii is thousands of miles from any foreign country. Legally all that matters is that a state issues a birth certificate. That is legal proof of birth in America. Tens of thousands of people get their US passports with state birth certificates every year, among whom are the thousands from Hawaii. That is sufficient. Moreover the fact that Obama's birth certificate exists has been repeatedly confirmed by the officials--of both parties--in Hawaii, and by the "index data," which is a publicly available book showing the birth certificates on file, and under 1961 there is a file listed for Obama. That is more than sufficient. However, in this case there is evidence outside of DOH files that provides still further confirmation. It is the birth notices that appeared in the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. As the name "Health Bureau Statistics" implies, the listings in that section ONLY came from the Department of Health--not from relatives--and the DOH at the time only sent out those notices for births in Hawaii. The microfilms of the newspapers showing Obama's birth notice have been found in several libraries.
David Farrar June 02, 2012 at 05:21 PM
So Ellen, the long and short of your post is: you don't have any other independent, collaborative evidence that Barack Obama was born when and where he states other than DOH recorsds. The 'evidence'..."outside of DOH files is the birth notices that appeared in the "Health Bureau Statistics" section of the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. As the name "Health Bureau Statistics" implies, the listings in that section ONLY came from the Department of Health--not from relatives" So the two newspapers birth announce were simply reflections of DOH index and not independent, collaborative evidence that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. Care to try again? ex animo davidfarrar
ehancock June 03, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Ah! So you think that the DOH of Hawaii made a mistake or lied in 1961 when it issued a birth certificate to Obama. In fact, it cannot be a mistake--it can only be a lie. Why? Because there is a DOH issued birth certificate saying "Kapiolani Hospital" with the signature of a Kapiolani Hospital doctor on it. So to make that signature the DOH must have forged it in 1961, and then placed the birth notices in the newspapers. Why would it do that? No Obama's mother's parents were not rich. No they were not influential, and in 1961 a Republican was the governor of Hawaii. The only reason that the DOH would have lied in 1961 would be that Obama was in fact born in a foreign country. But that is highly unlikely given how far Hawaii is from any other country---thousands of miles; look at a map. Moreover, the "born in Kenya" story is strictly loony. The grandmother did not say that he was born there. She said, in fact, that he was born in Hawaii, and in another interview she said that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama's birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
ehancock June 03, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Continuing: The notion of Obama’s mother, late in pregnancy, traveling alone (WND has shown that Obama senior was in Hawaii on August 4, 1961) from Hawaii where there are good hospitals, to Kenya, where there was Yellow Fever and bad hospitals, and doing so without any INS record of her leaving the USA or any record of her arriving in Kenya—is absurd. And the fact that there is a birth certificate showing that she gave birth in Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu makes it even more absurd. So it boils down to this: (1) It was highly unlikely that Obama's mother traveled overseas while late in pregnancy; (2) There is no proof that she traveled overseas, arrived in Kenya, gave birth in Kenya, returned to the USA or got a US passport, US visa, or had Obama added to her US passport in 1961---so there is no proof that either of them traveled; (3) There IS a birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii in 1961, and it says that he was born in Hawaii, and the chances of Hawaii officials forging that document in 1961 are absurdly low.
David Farrar June 03, 2012 at 03:55 PM
From the almost complete lack of evidence tying Ann Dunham to Hawaii six months before giving birth, she could have had Barack anywhere, including Canada. ex animo davidfarrar
David Farrar June 03, 2012 at 03:59 PM
So, for the record: you don't have any other independent, collaborative evidence that Barack Obama was born when and where he states other than DOH records; do you? Secondly, I don't KNOW what the Hawaiian Department of Health (HDOH) did or didn't do. We will only KNOW that when we can examine the "prima facie" documentary evidence the Hawaiian registrar used to issue the birth certificate. Once we know what evidence they used, then and only then can we ascertain the veracity of the registrar's findings. This is not complicated. It's done in probate courts all over the land thousands of time a day. It's just a question of "proving" the information contained in the Hawaiian Health Department records is accurate as much as possible. Nobody has a monopoly on the truth, not even Hawaiian Health Department officials. ex animo davidfarrar
Cosmo June 04, 2012 at 04:28 PM
Not exactly our brightest Gov. Considering Patterson was handed everything by the party, he is best being quiet.
EllenGHancock June 05, 2012 at 05:23 PM
If she had given birth to Obama in Canada, there would be a birth record in Canada. No such record has been found. THE fundamental facts remain. (1) It was extremely unlikely for Obama's mother to have traveled thousands of miles late in pregnancy; (2) There is no evidence that she traveled outside of the USA in 1961; (2) There is a birth certificate, whose existence is confirmed by multiple officials, Index Data and the notices in the Health Bureau Statistics section of the newspapers (which were sent to the papers by the DOH) that Obama was born in Hawaii. Only if the DOH had deliberately lied about Obama's birth in 1961, and there is no evidence for this and no motive for it, could Obama have been born anywhere else than in Hawaii. And factors (1) and (2) make this almost as unlikely as his being born on the moon.

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